Amistad

Amistad

Wednesday, May 20, 2015

Religion

The film has several scenes with religious overtones.  What do you think the film is saying about religion's role in the slavery debate?  Do you agree?

17 comments:

  1. In this film the Africans didn't know of a god but they did have certain beliefs. They got to experience and learn through a bible that was found. I feel like the film was saying that faith is the key. Not once did Cinque give up. He was someone that was looked up to. I agree with the film because with out faith in something you would have no determination.

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  2. I think the film is demonstrating how the abolitionists used religion to their benefit to help support their case. They tried to spread the idea that slavery was a sin and that humans shouldn't be owned according to God. The townspeople clearly supported this idea by raising their crosses as the Africans walked by on their way to hear the court's decision. Also, the African's interpretation of the bible helped to show that they believed there was a better place for everyone once they died. This instilled faith in them as they knew the way they were living now wasn't right according to the bible. I do agree with the film in that religion played a major role in the abolitionist movement as it helped to gain supporters. Also, it realistically illustrated one of the important reasons the movement was able to grow.

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  3. Americans that lived in the North were against slavery, and in the film you can see men and women praying for the Africans as they pass them on the streets. I took that as "don't worry, we've got God on our side, this will be okay." Then later in the film, when one of the Africans explained the Bible to Cinque, it seemed like they were viewing religion as something relatable. The use of religion in the film showed that the whites and the blacks weren't different at all, when everyone pro-slavery was trying to prove they were.

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  4. Slavery is double sided when it is seen through the eyes of religion. People before tried to justify slavery by saying since it was in the bible it is what god wishes. But as people started to comprehend catholicism and delve deeper they could see how there are some parts in the bible that contradict other parts. The use of religion helped spread the idea that slavery was a sin and that it's immoral for humans to be owed according to God. The African's interpretation of the bible helped show that there was life after death and that it doesn’t matter what you have in this life because you will be judged based on your character in the afterlife. It makes people who have nothing turn to religion because in God's eyes everyone is the same and a person will be measured by the size of their heart not by the size of their wealth or power.

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  5. The religion plays a role in the slavery debate. Cinque didn't understand who Jesus was but he was taught about a man who could heal the sick and was accused for a crime he didn't commit. He learned that the man was nailed to a cross but he rises and goes into the sky. The man relates to him because he was separated from their families and chained up even though he did nothing wrong. He believed that when they killed him, he will also go to the sky. When he was walking to the ship, he saw the cross on the boats and connected it to Jesus. I agree to what the movie was trying to say about how religion can be used on every issue and it's cool to see how religion was used to say that God wouldn't allow slavery to happen.

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  6. I think the film shows how many townspeople believe slavery is a sin. This is shown through the townspeople walking around with crosses and praying for the slaves. Religion in the film, I believe, benefited the abolitionist movement. Religion helped them gain supporters since many thought slavery was a sin. Even though Cinque couldn't read english, he was able to instill the belief that there was a better place for them once they die, just by interpreting the pictures of Jesus. I do agree with the role religion played in the film since it supported the abolitionist movement and helped benefit the movement.

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  7. I think the film shows how many townspeople believe slavery is a sin. This is shown through the townspeople walking around with crosses and praying for the slaves. Religion in the film, I believe, benefited the abolitionist movement. Religion helped them gain supporters since many thought slavery was a sin. Even though Cinque couldn't read english, he was able to instill the belief that there was a better place for them once they die, just by interpreting the pictures of Jesus. I do agree with the role religion played in the film since it supported the abolitionist movement and helped benefit the movement.

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  8. I think the film was trying to link how religion helped show that slavery was wrong. This is evident when the townspeople hold up their bibles and pray for the Africans in the hope that God will bring them justice. It can also be seen in how Cinque believes his ancestors will help him during the court case and bring him to freedom. Yet those who believe in slavery seem to have very little connection to religion. The slave traders, Jim Calhoun, or the southern Supreme Court Justices are never shown with any religious symbols which is meant to show how their belief in slavery goes hand in hand with their lack of religion. I don't fully agree with how the film portrayed religion's role because although abolitionists believed in religion, so did those who believed in slavery, they just had a different interpretation of the bible which led them to have different beliefs.

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  9. I think the film is trying to demonstrate that religion did not play a big part in the life of the Africans but the towns people were very different as they relied on religion heavily. Lots of people carried around crosses and were always praying unlike the slaves who didn't even know the story of Jesus Christ. They had to read the bible to fully understand who Christ was and what he symbolized, also why so many people worship him for his efforts. Although the slaves believed everyone was sick and against them many of the Townes people continued to say prays for them as they walked throughout the town. I disagree with the films display of religion in slavery because one can debate that the slaves needed a savior or at least someone to pray to during their struggles. It would be very difficult for slaves to survive if they couldn't speak to their worshipers in times of need, this may be the reason for why some slaves took their own lives.

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  10. The film demonstrates the use of religion by the abolitionists and the Africans to support their case. The Africans' interpretation of the pictures in the bible showed them that will be a better place for them. In addition, the abolitionists spread the idea to the community that slavery is a sin. The community responded and supported them by holding crosses as the Africans walked to and from the courtroom. Both the abolitionists and the Africans believed with their belief in religion that the way they were currently living was not right. I believe that religion played a major religion in the film since it helped the abolitionists to gain supporters with the community.

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  11. Cinque and the Africans used the Bible to understand the English language and American culture. They find common ground (similarities) with the Americans. They saw the illustrations in the Bible and saw the suffering followers of Christ went through, but also saw that there was hope even after death, and peace.

    The religious people with the Bibles and rosary beads in hand whom are present almost all of the time when the Africans are being transported in chains or behind bars, played a large role in the film. The abolitionist movement gained followers because of the religious view that slavery is a sin.

    In the beginning of the film, Cinque and his friend were making fun of these people holding Bibles up in the air, singing, and praying, but soon learned that they were doing it to support them and show that they cared about their well being.

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  12. Religion plays a huge role in this movie. The movie has many scenes where the townspeople are carrying and holding up crosses to the Africans. They are blessing the Africans and hoping they are set free. Religion is used in favor of abolitionists because they spread the idea that slavery is a sin. Although the Africans did not believe in one god, they had an ancestral belief, where they would call upon their ancestors and they would help them and this way, they would know that everything is going to be alright. This could be classified as religion because it is a belief system. And so religion played a huge role for the Africans because they still had faith, even when Cinque lost faith in Mr. Baldwin. They still had hope that they would be set free. Therefore, I agree with role religion plays in the film. Therefore I would agree on how the role of religion was played here.One's interpretation of the Bible would support the abolitionist movement. However I also disagree with how religion played because of how others could interpret the Bible in a different way. The way people interpret it could condone the actions of people who are pro-slavery.

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  13. In a sense, the film portrays in a rightful manner, the falsities of religion at that time. Before analyzing these falsities, we must first look at the many scenarios in which religion was used as a rhetoric to justify acts of brutality committed by whites and its impact on slaves. In addition to being used as justification, religion kept slaves from any form of social ascension. For instance, on a plantation, the slave masters forbade their slaves from reading or writing, and yet made sure they were aware of the fact that their god was white and that it was ordained by him for them to stay enslaved. With that in mind, it becomes easier to identify religion’s role in the film.
    Aboard the Amistad, two leaders were brought into view at the wake of insurrection: Cinque, a man who wanted to kill the captain and his helper, and Yamba who chose a more diplomatic route, allowing them to live in order to help his people return to their homeland. Because of this, Yamba was seen as the more intelligent leader, while Cinque far too aggressive. However, as the movie progresses, we can see the negative impact religion has on Yamba as a leader. Once he received a bible, he became more of an introvert than a leader, falling behind Cinque and becoming another faceless member of the group of Mendes. On the other hand, Cinque in his lack of religious assimilation, grew to be an intelligent leader while remaining a strong one. Yamba fell victim to the falsities of western religion. By being captivated by its grandeur and vibrance, he lost sight of reality and thus could not help his people out of their predicament.

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  14. Many people used slavery as a way to argue for slavery and others used it argue against it. In Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT it states that it's ok to purchase another human being. Many people used this to justify slavery and the treatment of their slaves. But others would consider the evil of man. How the people being considered as slaves are still people and they didn't ask to for their lives to be taken away from them, they were forced into it. I think during this time period religion was extremely integrated into the lifestyles of Americans and the law system. With this in mind, People often considered and used religion as grounds for the right to be a slaveholder. As we know now there is a clear law that separates the government from following religious ways in any means. I think this was one of the most important laws passed in our government. It is not in any way fair, moral, or the definition of American "freedom" to prosecute someone based on others religious views.

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  15. In the first conversation between Roger Sherman Baldwin and Tappen, Roger explains that he can win the case if they treat it as a property issue rather than trying to fight slavery itself. Tappen believes that fighting against slavery would have a more profound effect and even mentions how Jesus never tried to get off on a technicality. Roger responds by saying Jesus lost and they needed to be pragmatic in winning the case over being idealistic and losing the case.
    For a long time, slavery had been rationalized by religion, however the issue developed in a divisive one between the north and the south. An issue as insignificant as a small group of captured Africans developed into a Supreme Court case. I believe the film is saying that religion had a role in questioning and rationalizing slavery, but the issue had moved beyond a moral one and had become a legal and bloody one.

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  16. The film showed that religion was not a big factor during the abolition movement. Even though their was a specific scene where Cinque and another guy were looking at the pictures In the book. But throughout the whole film slavery Is depicted as a sin which Is true. Their were scenes where crosses were being held up but the slaves had no idea what was going on because they do not know the meaning of a religion.

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  17. Religon was used during this era to justify the actions of one. For southerners, they believed it was there duty to help civilize these "animals" and slavery is the only way they could learn to assimilate. While abolitionist argued that it's a sin to hold another human in chains and force them to work for no pay. But, the Africans didn't use religion as a scape goat for anything. To them is was hope. Hope that one day they will be in a better place. Considering nobody has the answer to everything, the utilization of religion always anyone to interrupt it their own way and use it to reenforce whatever they want to do. As long as it's in the name of the lord the southerners felt they were carrying out their duty. I somewhat disagree with how religion was used in this movie. I think religion should be looked at as something precious and providing good to everyone, not just a select group.

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